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This week on Episode 43 of his Triple Threat Podcast, “The Franchise” Shane Douglas weighed in on the much discussed decision to have Braun Strowman’s mystery partner at WrestleMania be a child. In the following excerpt from the episode, Shane compares the decision for Braun and Nicholas winning to Vince Russo booking David Arquette’s WCW World Title victory in the year 2000. The full episode can be downloaded at this link.

Shane Douglas on Braun Strowman and Nicholas’ title win at WrestleMania:

“My understanding and from the guys in my entourage (that attended WrestleMania) were saying that the audience kind of died after that match and you could kind of felt the energy leave the room. But we’ve heard for eighteen years that Vince Russo is the worst thing ever to wrestling because he put the belt on David Arquette. As much as I disagree with that decision that was better than putting a belt on a ten year old kid. My thought as soon as I heard this was what about Cesaro and Sheamus? They’ve got to go out and do a job to one guy that has a ten year old kid as his sidekick. The only way that could have worked and this may sound terrible but if you think it through it is the only way that could have worked and that is if they had a kid that was a Make-A-Wish kid or a kid that had been sick or something and you bring him in and do something to pop the crowd. It would have still been up-roared by wrestling purists but you would have seen some kind of some light at the end of the tunnel with it.

“Vince Russo has been vilified for eighteen years over the David Arquette thing and now we have this. But to be fair and let’s throw some stuff in there from WrestleMania weekend. There was a show that shall go unnamed (but you can find it I’m sure if you looked) where they had The Invisible Man come out and win a battle royal. I go back to Bill Watts and I tell Bill Watts specifically about that and his mouth dropped open when I said it. To me, it reeks of and it seems that nobody has respect for the industry or their own work in the industry anymore.

“If everything is a spoof and everything is a Saturday Night Live skit where does it end? You mentioned in your lead in that Vince Russo has been vilified in this industry to this day and look at the feedback you guys got off of the interview you had with David Arquette. To me, that is so much more plausible as implausible and that was so much more plausible than having a ten year old kid come out of the audience and win the World Tag Team Titles. It speaks to all of what is wrong with our business today and this is what everybody hears me say in any interview and that this is the difference of sports entertainment to professional wrestling. There is a very stark difference. Nothing against the kid and I am happy that he lived a dream that he will have the rest of his life and remember forever but that is not what WrestleMania is supposed to be about and that is not what the product is supposed to be about.

“It just underscores to me just how far off the track our industry has gone. After eighteen years of vilification of Vince Russo of that (David Arquette) decision we now get this. In light of and at the same time we get The Invisible Man winning battle royals, we get freeze-frames, we get pretend hand grenades and all of this crazy stuff that has nothing to do with wrestling.”

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WCW’s Bash at the Beach 2000 was one of the more controversial events in the company’s history. The topic came up when Booker T hosted Jeff Jarrett on his Heated Conversations podcast.

In a match between Hulk Hogan and Jarrett, who was the WCW World Heavyweight Champion, Vince Russo had Jarrett lay down in the center of the ring so Hogan can win the title. Hogan got on the mic and admonished Russo for the segment before pinning Jarrett and Russo later fired him, declaring Jarrett was still the champion. It was Hogan’s last appearance in WCW. Later that night, Russo announced an impromptu match between Jarrett and Booker in which Booker won his first WCW world championship.

The incident came up when Jarrett was discussing the differences between how wrestlers worked back then and how current wrestlers work. Jarrett said current superstars sometimes attempt to do too much in the ring and need to slow down.

“One of the things that come to my mind as I have shared the last couple of years is that you [Booker T] and I both lived through that myth known as Bash at the Beach, and at the end of the night, when you [Booker T] and me were put in an awkward position because of all the B.S., but what I had said was that match was one of my all-time favorites because of the set of circumstances,” Jarrett said. “Where I was going with this is that we both like old and new school, but Booker T, what you did you did very good, you didn’t have to do 15,000 moves, you did your set of moves that flat out got over and stayed over. That is what I have seen it a lot more now, from 2005-2014, there have been guys that tried 50 different moves in one match, and you tell them to take a breather and cut out 80% of it, but that 20% you do, do it really well. Guys that are developing, that are just standing out, they are doing just enough and doing it really well, and I believe that is the secret to something that is missed.”

Jarrett said he was unaware of how things were going to unfold at Bash at the Beach, but he did have an inkling that something was off. Still, he was proud that he and Booker were able to work through the difficult circumstances.

“I have gone on record. I wish I can give you a big, juicy story that can make headlines, but I knew something was up a little bit going into the weekend because I couldn’t get a clear answer on anything. Then, that day, I’m not pointing the finger at anybody, it was the system, so I didn’t know a whole lot. It was one thing to another, to another, then got shifted. Johnny Ace was there; it was a big bucket of stew that didn’t taste very well from anybody,” Jarrett said. “I did say, as I said in multiple interviews when I get asked about that; everyone wants to know about the Hulk Hogan situation and the politics behind that; sort of the hidden gem is that we closed the show, you [Booker T] were crowned champion in very difficult circumstances, but we went out and did business and I am pretty proud of that.”

As previously noted, 2018 WWE Hall Of Fame nominee Ivory sat down for a Skype chat session with WWE Hall Of Famer Steve Austin on The Steve Austin Show. Among many other things Ivory talked about her run as Miss Ivory of Right To Censor, the transition from terming female pro wrestlers ‘women’ to ‘divas’, and her WWE departure in 2005.

On the subject of Right To Censor, Ivory indicated that she did not receive very meaningful instruction from then-WWE writer Vince Russo. According to Ivory, Stephanie McMahon pitched her the RTC role, but was tentative about it. Additionally, Ivory said RTC was a lot of fun.

“Yeah, the only instruction Vince Russo ever gave me was, ‘just be a b—h,'” Ivory recalled. “They give you this name and I have no idea where it came from. And that was about the gist of my direction. ‘Just be a b—h, Ivory!’ ‘Okay, I’ll do my best!’ But, The Right to Censor, Stephanie [McMahon] approached me with it and she was really tentative about it, like, ‘nobody’s going to want to do this… would you want to join the group?’ And I said, ‘hell yeah!’ I was waiting for something to sink my teeth into, so I was all-in to be Miss Ivory of The RTC. It was great fun too!”

In Ivory’s learned opinion, the transition to divas made it harder and harder for her to talk put over the WWE product.

“I get that it’s packaging and it’s neat to put a name on what the girls are,” Ivory said. “But it seems to me that they were making us Sports Illustrated swimsuit models instead of women who wrestle on a pro wrestling program. So it worked for the company, but I think it was a big part of what made it okay for me when I left was that it was getting harder and harder to talk really great about our product because they had gotten rid of all the wrestlers, the women workers, and replaced that segment with pieces that were really just embarrassing to watch. Nothing against the women trying out to be divas, but watching them get canned in front of everybody on TV, with the audience voting them off with their cell phones and votes, like The Voice or any of those shows, but kind of not really based on expressing their talents. It was their looks only and we made them do these stupid relays and it was just really demeaning and it didn’t have anything to do with wrestling! Make a different reality show about that, but don’t put it on our show. So to me, it got to be hard to put it over when I was doing WWE Experience or whatever, anything.”

With respect to her WWE departure, Ivory, who claimed that she did not get into landscaping no matter what her Wiki page suggests, admitted that was disgruntled because she wanted to be a pro wrestler and WWE wanted her to be a talking head.

“I was disgruntled because there was still some good action to be had in the ring and I wanted to be in my boots and not be a talking head when I had the best gig in the world! I mean, come on!” Ivory elaborated, “it was such an easy gig, but I’m not very good at accepting great offers right away. I was still kind of pissed that I wasn’t in the ring.”

Former WWE writer Vince Russo recently went to his podcast to comment on a statement made from Triple H claiming that Russo does not know how to end storylines, and cited an example being the Rebellion pay-per-view in 1999. Russo also posted on Twitter his dissatisfaction with Triple H’s comments, urging him to “get his facts straight.”

Apparently, there was an “amnesia” angle that Stephanie was a part of at the event after the British Bulldog threw a garbage can and it accidentally hit her, but was never followed through. According to Russo, Triple H added that this angle was written because he and Ed Ferrara did not know where they were ultimately going with the Stephanie-Test angle. Russo stated that he did not know anything about this angle, and the dates given when the angle was supposed to transpire did not line up with the time he was there.

Russo also stated that the culmination of the Stephanie McMahon and Test marriage angle was always set in stone.

“Ed [Ferrara] and I knew all along where we were going with the Stephanie-Test storyline,” said Russo. “It was never in question. Our plan all along was for Test to stand her up at the altar. That was the plan, and we were going to make Test a heel. And Test was gonna have an issue with Shane, and the whole family. That’s where we were going. We never wrote a story [that] we didn’t know where the thing was going.”

Russo stated that he was in Atlanta with Ferrara making a deal with WCW, and he did not write for the Rebellion UK event which aired on October 2. In fact, he would later recall that he left WWE for WCW in September, a couple weeks before Rebellion. He added that Patt Patterson, Jim Ross, and Bruce Prichard would book house shows, and there could have been a segment where an amnesia angle was created after “they did the gimmick thing with the [British] Bulldog and what it looks like is like it kinda ricocheted off of something and hit Stephanie. That was probably an accident, and [WWE] probably used that as some kind of amnesia angle once Ed and I left, [until] they figured out what they wanted to do.”

To fans, the conclusion of the angle was Triple H marrying Stephanie McMahon while she was passed out days before her wedding with Test, which enraged Stephanie. Stephanie would turn heel just a couple of weeks later during the main event of Armaggedon and betray her father Vince, which commenced the McMahon-Helmsley Regime.

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Source: Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard

On episode 51 of Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard, current Impact Wrestling on-air authority figure and pro wrestling podcaster Bruce Prichard talked about WINC alum Vince Russo’s WWE run. Notably, Prichard talked about Russo advocating for Triple H, the Madison Square Garden Curtain Call, Triple H and Chyna being a “package deal” behind-the-scenes, who wanted The New Age Outlaws in D-Generation X, and who came up with WWE “attitude”.

According to Prichard, Russo was the biggest advocate for Triple H early on while Vince McMahon and Jim Cornette used to say that ‘The Game’ was a midcarder at best.

“I do remember Corny and Vince McMahon saying that Triple H would be a midcard guy at best early on in his [pro wrestling] career and Russo was a huge proponent of Triple H. And I dare say that without Russo at the helm at the time, Hunter probably would not have gotten the breaks that he got at the time.”

Prichard continued, “yeah, [Russo was Triple H’s biggest advocate at the time] and then Vince McMahon became, but Hunter was one of those guys who was always around, always asking questions, and wanting to be a part of whatever he could do to learn. I liked Hunter because I always liked his attitude, just willing to do whatever it took to learn the [pro wrestling] business, but Russo was definitely pushing Hunter and had an awful lot of ideas for him.”

On the subject of the MSG Curtain Call, Prichard claimed that everyone was offended, not just him and Cornette, as was suggested by podcast co-host Conrad Thompson from reading excerpts of Russo’s own writings.

“It was simply a feeling of what they did being disrespectful to Vince [McMahon], being disrespectful to the memory of Vince’s dad doing it in the Garden, our home. It was something that hadn’t been done before and something everybody was upset about, not just me, not just Cornette, but Vince McMahon, pretty much every one of the boys who wasn’t involved in the Curtain Call.”

Moreover, Prichard stated that Triple H was punished in an upfront way for the Curtain Call and explained that McMahon decided not to go with Triple H for King Of The Ring because The Chairman did not feel like he could trust ‘The King Of Kings’.

“Hunter was punished and he was considered for King Of The Ring, but Vince didn’t feel like he could trust him at that point in time and he wanted Hunter to prove himself and Hunter did.”

During the podcast, Prichard confirmed Russo’s assertion that dealing with either Triple H or Chyna meant dealing with both of them, calling the pair a “package deal”.

“Probably so [Triple H had to be present for Chyna’s creative meetings with Russo] from his vantage point pitching stuff. Whatever Joanie was doing, she was with Hunter, so I’m sure Hunter wanted to be there. But they were also an item at the time, so they did everything together. Whenever I’d call either one of them, the other was usually there. It was kind of a team decision because they were a package deal.”

Another rumor Prichard attempted to dispel involved D-Generation X. Pro wrestling rumor and innuendo purports that ‘The Road Dogg’ Jesse James and ‘The Bad Ass’ Billy Gunn were not picked by Triple H and Shawn Michaels to join the group. Prichard recalled that Michaels wanted The New Age Outlaws for the stable.

“The guy that brought Billy [Gunn] and Road Dogg to Vince [McMahon]’s attention was Shawn Michaels who saw those two guys. They were singles. One was a Rockabilly and then Jesse James… It was Shawn Michaels who brought them to Vince and wanted them to be a part of DX and felt that they would be a great team together.”

Finally, Prichard credited McMahon with conceiving of the ‘attitude’ concept after fining Shawn Michaels for his vulgar and explicit antics.

“That’s where Vince McMahon coined the phrase ‘attitude’ because Shawn, in his defense, was like, ‘because I’ve got attitude, you’re going to fine me, blah, blah, blah?’ And that’s where Vince, I’ll never forget, Vince came back to us and said, ‘that’s attitude! That’s what we need. We need more attitude!'”

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WWE announced the following today:

Stephanie McMahon to publish memoirNEW YORK — Regan Arts has announced that they will publish a memoir by WWE Chief Brand Officer Stephanie McMahon. The book will provide an unprecedented look inside WWE’s incredible history and remarkably contemporary approach to media.

Stephanie’s inspirational memoir reveals her life growing up behind the scenes in WWE and the story of her journey to becoming Chief Brand Officer — including her successes and failures in the business world — and valuable advice for anyone working in a challenging industry today. She is also candid about balancing her family life with the instense schedule and demands of WWE.

“Growing up in the world of WWE has been an incredible journey that has really only just started,” McMahon said. “I’m thrilled to be able to fulfill a lifelong dream and share an inside look into WWE in my upcoming memoir.”

Judith Regan, CEO of Regan Arts said, “Stephanie McMahon is one of the great visionaries behind the continuing success of WWE and has navigated the entertaining, treacherous, and awe-inspiring world of Superstars, egos, and drama with style, tremendous skill and dynamic feminine force. And that’s just dealing with her family. That family encompasses everyone in the WWE family worldwide. Her story is Shakespearean in its drama and comedy, and she is in a unique position to share an inside view of one of the world’s most successful organizations. Her story will also motivate you to get off your butt and make magic happen. I love her and you will too when you read her book.”

Shane McMahon made a shocking return to the WWE on last night’s episode of Raw, and made waves in the wrestling world. Wrestling Inc Podcast co-host Vince Russo worked alongside Shane McMahon for years, and voiced his joy over the return on the show last night.

“It was very personal for me. I was thrilled to see him back in that ring. I had a different relationship with Shane than the other McMahons. At Titan Tower, the big shots were on the fourth floor, the magazine department was on the second floor, and at that time, Shane was getting social media started and he was on the second floor, so I had a lot more interaction with Shane than Vince,” Russo said.

Russo recalled floating the idea of Shane being a character in the 90s, and being blown away at how good he was. He also said that Shane McMahon was much more welcoming than Stephanie.

“I pitched that Shane needs to be a character. I remember him going out and delivering a promo and sitting in the back saying he’s better than his old man.When I almost went back in 2002, there was no doubt in my mind Shane McMahon wanted me back and Stephanie McMahon didn’t because I would be a threat to her power. I have a warm spot in my heart for Shane, I don’t think there could be anyone else I’d be more happy to see,” Russo said.

Shane McMahon was well liked in the locker room, according to Russo. He said that Shane and Vince were polar opposites with the talent.

“Shane had a great relationship with the talent. When Vince walks around Titan Tower, he wants people to fear him. He gets off on that. Shane was never that guy. It was never a power trip, and ego. You’d never know he was the boss’ kid. He was more of one of the boys than the boss’ son. The things that were important to Vince– money, power ego, were not important to Shane McMahon,” Russo said.

When asked about any clashes that Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon had previously, Russo said he was told of the situation that led to Shane’s exit from the WWE.

“I know the final showdown was a clash. Vince brought a couple of guys in his office, and told them that Shane was no longer with the company, and Shane was ready to be in charge, and even though it was his son, he wasn’t ready to step down and that’s the reason (Shane) stepped down. I’m watching this tonight, and everything that they’re saying in the ring is real. What is really going on behind the scenes?” Russo said.

Russo also said that it was easy to tell that Stephanie McMahon was Vince’s daughter, and that Shane McMahon was Linda’s son because of the differences in attitude.