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Jon Moxley is arguably the most polarizing pro wrestler at the moment. After setting fire to the internet with his Talk Is Jericho and Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcastappearances, Moxley continues to dish out details of the current state of pro wrestling.

In a recent interview with 25 Years Later, Moxley showed the divide between the public and controversial departure of former WWE superstar CM Punk against himself.

“A bridge is never burnt in WWE Vince [McMahon] would have me back tomorrow and would love it if I came crawling back to him,” Moxley said. “I think Punk had a lot more personal animosity towards WWE and specific people. I don’t know every detail of his story and I haven’t spoken to him since he left WWE. His experience drove him to not like wrestling anymore, I think. For me, I wanted to exact opposite. I just got pro wrestling back after losing it years ago. I’m like “Whoa, I’m back in the game, here we go!”

“I wanted to make sure that people knew that there’s no bitterness and that my love of wrestling and my desire to perform for the fans, my desire to meet and exceed their expectations and my love for the fans has only gotten bigger… That’s probably the biggest difference between my interview and the Punk interview. He was basically saying f*ck pro wrestling, and I was saying that I got my love of pro wrestling back.” 

As numerous former WWE superstars have eventually jumped ship to AEW, many fans have followed suit. Moxley said that his loyal fanbase from WWE, as well as other WWE fans, have now put feelers on the AEW product.

“They have stayed with me through thick and thin and they’re going to follow me wherever I go,” Moxley said. “Now they’re AEW fans. They can still be WWE fans but they’re AEW fans too. Not trying to come off as arrogant but that’s a lot of fans that are now following AEW. We’re garnering a huge fan base and we’ve only done one show. It just so happens that the one show we’ve done was f***ing awesome. Even if this whole thing goes t*ts up and we never run another show, that was one helluva show. But we’re going to run more shows, a lot more shows.

“The sum of wrestling outside of WWE is bigger than WWE. I feel like myself, the entire AEW roster and all of the fans are the same team, reaching for the same goal, to make wrestling awesome. To not be embarrassed to tel people you’re a wrestling fan because they’d say to you ‘oh that show with fart jokes and they poop on each other or whatever the f**k happens over there anymore’. If you’re a wrestling fan and you show someone some things from WWE, you’d be embarrassed. You’d want to bust out old VHS tapes to show them why you’re a wrestling fan because this isn’t it. I want people to be wearing an AEW shirt and have someone say ‘Oh, you’re a wrestling fan, f**k yeah, me too’. When I was standing on that poker chip at the end of Double Or Nothing, I didn’t know when we were going off the air. I stayed up there but for some reason, I just wanted to take a f***ing victory lap. Security did not appreciate it but I took a giant victory lap around the arena off the air, and I felt like I was with 12,000 teammates. We are all AEW. We have that common bond.” 

Moxley discussed the flow from indy wrestling to WWE main roster status. Moxley believes that products like Triple H’s NXT might not necessarily be the best development process for talent. He references Daniel Bryan and CM Punk as two superstars who have partaken in massive WWE moments without the aid of NXT. Moxley also compared Triple H buying up all the indy talent to Vince McMahon buying up all the wrestling territories in the past.

“I thought it was a bad idea when Hunter started buying the indys,” Moxley confessed. “You had Seth and me, along with Joey Mercury and we were able to sneak in a few key guys like Luke Harper, Neville, Cesaro. Once I was on the main roster and NXT started, which I wasn’t a part of, every week Triple H was taking an Instagram selfie with some indie guy. I don’t know if he was trying to make himself look cool and get some indy cred or what, or make NXT cool. He basically started buying the Indys. I remember thinking that it might not be a good idea. Then where are all of these good ideas going to come from? If they signed Daniel Bryan at 21, he never would’ve become Bryan Danielson and you never wouldn’t had WrestleMania 30. If they signed Punk before he really became CM Punk, he never would’ve done what he did. If they signed me as 21, I never would’ve become anything good. I had to develop first before getting brought in.

“Buying up all the indy scene was the same as Vince buying all the territories back in the day. There’s nobody left to cherry pick for talent. It’s amazing that even though they bought up the indys that it has repopulated itself stronger than ever. Makes you very optimistic about the future of pro wrestling…I want to wrestle everyone. Let’s drop all the bridges, get all the companies together and have a super show that sells out a stadium right now.”

Moxley is set to face Shota Umino at NJPW Dominion this weekend. Moxley’s in ring debut for AEW is scheduled for June 29th, 2019 against Joey Janela at AEW Fyter Fest in Daytona Beach, FL.

Dustin Rhodes had six different stints with WWE and the sixth one didn’t go as he had hoped. He reached a point where WWE’s creative team had nothing for him which was very frustrating for someone who had seen just about everything in the business.

Rhodes talked about how it feels when you are in limbo with a creative team when he joined Talk is Jericho.

“When you are not necessarily being held back, but when there is so much going on and creative has nothing for you and you are sitting back there pitching these ideas and they get to Vince McMahon; some of them do and some of them do not,” revealed Rhodes. “Then finally you just have to go to Vince McMahon himself and he will say either yes or no and I get that to an extent. I get the deal, but when you are sitting back and you are watching everything that you know you can do and do it even better it is frustrating to sit back there and just go, dammit, here I am I have to travel, spend all this money on rental cars and you got nothing for me?

“I love wrestling. It is in my blood. It is in my DNA and it’s just I want to be one of the best. I want to be remembered as one of the very best to have walked into this business and I believe I have left a legacy that is pretty cool and it is good. It is not as great as it could be but I don’t feel bad about anything that I have done in this business so it’s all been there for me, everything I have done. I do believe that every time I do go out there, I never let the fans down. I put on a good show, even if it three minutes or twenty minutes, you go out there and work hard. That is my work ethic; you get 110%. I don’t half-ass stuff. Even when I am in a damn bad mood and don’t feel like doing a certain something you still go out there and perform because these people pay to see you. They pay for you to put on a show so you give them the best show to entertain them as you possibly can.”

Rhodes’ creative uncertainty helped pave the way for his WWE exit for seemingly the last time. Rhodes last wrestled for WWE in April 2018 then had double knee surgery three months later. He never appeared in a ring for the company again and was released in March 2019.

“I was tired. To me, it was like I was deflated a lot; terribly. I wanted out because I really wanted to follow my other dream which is acting. I think I can get in there. I have done a few low-budget independent films and I have a couple more on the deck so I wanted to try something else. I have done this for so long, 31 years and I love it, it’s my first love but I want to go have some freedom to go do some other things,” said Rhodes who previously mentioned that acting is much easier on the body than wrestling.

“There are some things that had happened that really bit me the wrong way. I went in and had a meeting with them and I said, look I am done. I am tired and I just didn’t care. This is one of those moments where I did not care what they did, what they said. I wanted out. It was emotional; I did cry and I think that when they finally gave me my release we agreed that yes, they would give me my release and would pay me until my injuries were done because I had just come off of double knee surgeries and then we will give you the 90 days and we will pay you through that. I said, fine, that is not a problem.”

After that meeting Rhodes got a call from Triple H who thanked him for everything he had done for WWE. Afterwards the legal battle regarding his contract started and when he was finally released from his contract, he says a huge weight was lifted off his shoulders.

“It was incredible. I immediately got so much happier because it was stressful; I hadn’t been happy for a while. I had lost my passion in a sense for our business and that is terrible; it is horrible, and something like Double or Nothing happens and my love for the business is reunited because it was so freaking incredible,” said Rhodes. 

“I love talking about it right now. I am excited about AEWand what the future holds and what they are going to do because they are going to be a great man. God, what a special time. All those kids that I had seen for the first time, a lot of them I knew. A lot of the production team I knew, but meeting the kids you can tell that they are hungry and that is important, man. To think that these guys are showing up to work and are excited about creating something that is brand new right out of the shoot and knocking it out of the park and they are hungry and to see that with all of these kids it is unreal. It is a special time to be in this industry and AEW right now has got the writing on the typical lightning bolt. It is going to be kick ass.” 

Rhodes had spent some time in TNA and some indie promotions in between his WWE stints, but it wasn’t since he was with WCW in 2001 that he had worked in a big arena for a company other than WWE before Double or Nothing.

Rhodes described the scene at AEW when he arrived for the show.

“It was pretty surreal because I walked in the night before and they were doing some rehearsals for some stuff and getting the set ready. I am looking at everything. I am looking at the railings, the entrances and the big mat right there that says ‘AEW.’ I am looking at it and thinking ‘holy sh**.’ Here I am. It is a different backyard. A different ballpark and it feels good,” stated Rhodes.

“You are looking at the whole set and I am sitting there watching Cody Rhodes. I think one of the things that I really loved is that I am standing at ringside, and I am not used to the cables you know because I have been used to the ropes for so long. But with the cables you get in there and bounce around I am looking around and I see Cody and he’s got his headset on with his paper in hand and everybody is running up to him. It is such a good feeling. I am watching him and it is such a good feeling for him. I am looking over at the two entrances, which is a concept that I like. I think it is really cool and from everything; the whole look, to everything. It was surreal. It was a weird feeling but also, it was really cool and how glad I was to be there.”

As we previously reported, Jon Moxley, f.k.a. Dean Ambrose, appeared on the latest edition of Talk Is Jericho, which dropped today. The episode was recorded late last week. We recapped the incidents that led to Moxley knowing for sure that he was leaving the company here, however he also spoke in depth about the problems with the creative process in WWE.

One of the major creative hurdles with the company is their over-scripting of promos. Moxley noted that promos used to be one of his favorite aspects of pro wrestling, but he was dreading them by the time he left the company.

“They take wrestling away from you,” Moxley said. “Wrestling is my first love and my only love besides my wife. It’s the thing I’m most passionate about, I love it. I feel like I got it back finally. Since I was a little kid, I was always watching tapes, always thinking of promos. I wanted to watch all the wrestling, I loved pacing around the house thinking of promos, waking up in the middle of the night and just thinking of a cool line or a way to tell the story of a match.

“Promos used to be my favorite part of wrestling. I loved it! They ended up becoming my least favorite part, the part I dread. Because now it’s not me coming up with ideas and coming up with ways for me to hook you into our story, it means me trying not to look like an idiot… Sitting down with a writer, that is not how it is supposed to be!”

During the interview, Moxley discussed his return to WWElast summer from injury. He said that he was motivated to return and was working out profusely, even though he felt “shackled” creatively at the time. He said that he was thinking of ideas for his return, only to realize that the company wouldn’t go for it. 

“I was so excited to come back to wrestling, but I was not excited to come back to WWE,” Moxley said. “I was picturing myself in other places, I was picturing myself coming back to like CZW. I was picturing myself in Japan. Anywhere but WWE.

“My particular type of charisma, Vince [McMahon] just can’t just let me be. He’s got to put a hat on me or put me in a goofy vehicle. For whatever reason, me and Vince are like Mentos and Diet Coke together, we just create this explosion of goofy nonsense that I detest.”

Moxley flew to Stamford, Connecticut to meet with Vince about his return. He had said that he wanted to come back as a heel to change his character because he hated it. He looked at the return as an opportunity to reinvent himself. He met with Vince again later to discuss his return as it was getting closer about, but was told that The Shield was already advertised for a show in Australia in October so there’s no way that he’ll be a heel before that. He was also told that he would basically be returning as Seth Rollins’ partner, which he loves doing, but it was more of the same.

“Basically their idea of me coming back was exactly what everybody expected,” Moxley said. “No shock, nothing different, just good ol’ Lunatic Fringe. That’s it.”

WWE wanted Moxley to return the week before SummerSlam, but Moxley convinced them to have it be at the pay-per-view. Moxley said he was deflated with how he’d return, but he continued to train hard and then got a call that it would be the week before SummerSlam, as they originally discussed. Moxley also mentioned Rollins’ promo introducing him back where he told Dolph Ziggler that if Ziggler’s going to have a “Scottish Psychopath” in his corner, then he’ll have a lunatic in his. Moxley felt that the verbiage cheapened the original pop as opposed to if they would have just hit his music.

“It’s a small example of they ruin everything!” Moxley exclaimed. “How do you screw that up? Hit the button, play the music! It’s like they have to get their hands in it, they have to justify their jobs or something. It’s a great example of overproducing everything.”

Moxley said that he was leaving WWE regardless of what other companies were out there. He said that he would have left even if there were no other promotions in existence.

When it was time to renew his contract, Moxley said that he was “relishing the opportunity” to say that he wasn’t interested. When he finally was told over Royal Rumbleweekend this past January that he would be presented the new contract that Monday at RAW, Moxley said that he couldn’t hold it in anymore and exclaimed that he’s gone as soon as his contract expires. He said he wouldn’t change his mind, it was something he thought about for a long time, it wasn’t an emotional decision, but he was done.

Moxley talked about WWE issuing a press release after rumors of his departure started, which was unprecedented. Moxley doesn’t know why it was sent, other than Vince probably wanted to control the narrative.

“[Vince] has got the Million Dollar Man complex,” Moxley stated. “That’s why he pays Brock [Lesnar] billions of dollars to come in and ruin his company. Because he wants to own Brock. He wants to be like, ‘Brock’s my attraction!’ A guy he has no power over (me), he doesn’t know how to handle it.”

Moxley revealed that he never looked at his new contract when it was offered. Moxley said he felt something akin to a physical depression during his time, because the company “takes away something that you love.” He said that they take away the talents promos because they have writers, they can’t come up with cool things in matches because of the producers and they can’t come up with intriguing storylines because of the writers.

Moxley said that there would be days where he would just lay in bed because he’d be dreading the conversations with the writers. He said that once his departure became real, he feels like a new person. He added that he’s excited with his opportunities with AEW and plans to prove that the WWE creative process is wrong.

“I want to prove that [WWE’s] creative process sucks,” Moxley stated. “It does not work, it’s absolutely terrible. I’ve said that to Vince, I’ve said that to Hunter, I’ve said that Michael Hayes. I can’t even tell you how their system works, it’s some kind of system of meetings that take place in Stamford, then there’s a home team. There’s writers and producers and production meetings and nobody knows what’s approved and what’s not.

“The bureaucratic red tape that you have to go through to get anything approved is crazy! It doesn’t work! It’s killing the company and I think Vince is the problem. And not so much Vince, but whatever the structure that he built around himself probably starting around 2002 after the sale of WCW and this infrastructure of writers, producers and this is what the WWE is and what the product is, and the product sucks. [They have] great talent, amazing talent. None of this is their fault.

“If I had a goal with AEW, that’s that if we can prove that Vince’s way sucks. That’s not what I’m going to focus on, because it’s not about competing with WWE. We’re just going to be over here doing our best and putting on our best product. If a byproduct of that is that it pushes WWE to re-evaluate their creative process and it makes Vince – not that he’s going to step aside because we all know that he’s going to die in the chair – but maybe he’ll listen to someone else’s ideas. Maybe he’ll be open to doing it a different way.”

We’re constantly hearing rumours of backstage grumblings within WWE over the erratic nature of helmsman Vince McMahon – and several of those were seemingly confirmed by an insider on Wade Keller’s podcast yesterday.

Keller spoke to a close associate of the company’s writing team on an episode of his Post Pro-Wrestling Show last night, and the unnamed informant dropped a few zingers.

Most notably, Triple H is said to be “the most frustrated person in backstage every night”, apparently taking wrestlers – in particular NXT graduates – under his wing, and seemingly “consoling them”.

He also mentioned, confirming the generally received wisdom, that the creative team are “writing for an audience of one”, and if they forget that, they’re booted.

Other choice nuggets included that the Superstar Shake-Up didn’t transpire anything like originally planned, the ‘Wild Card’ rule was a last minute addition to the script, and that everybody works for Dana Warrior and “it’s really awkward”.

The writer revealed that one colleague was very close to calling it quits because he is so “unbelievably happy”, citing WWE as a “toxic atmosphere” which is “all because of one person”.

How’s that for a pipe bomb?

Ronda Rousey recently spoke with UFC’s Megan Olivi about how WWE and MMA can take a toll on her mentality and physically, who taught her to lace up her boots, if WrestleMania was her bigger career moment, and her love for Stephanie McMahon.

Rousey discussed the differences between working in UFC, where it’s much more of a mental drain, compared to the physical grind WWE can have on talent.

“It’s physical in a different way, the stress from fighting is much, much more,” Rousey said. “The training camp, the weeks leading up to it, the press, and going to sleep every night thinking about it. That’s the real wear and tear, not so much the physical part of it. With fights you assume, ‘Okay, I’ll give myself at least a month to recover after that.’ It’s a peaking system, you allow yourself to peak and crash. With WWE it’s just a grind and it’s non-stop, I did the easy version, everybody else does 300 days a year. Their bodies don’t get to rest as much as ours in MMA, but their minds get to rest a lot more in MMA I feel like. There’s no pressure on anything.”

One of Rousey’s first big WWE appearances was at WrestleMania 31 when she was invited into the ring by The Rock where she would end up taking down Stephanie McMahon and Triple H. Rousey said when she first returned one of her requests was to finish that story with Stephanie, partly because she’s such a big fan of her.

“When I first came into the organization I was like, ‘Hey, I would really liked to do this for a couple months, I’m gonna have a baby soon. Just so ya know, this isn’t forever,”‘ Rousey began. “My one request was when we first started is I wanted to finish my storyline with Stephanie. That was my request because I love Stephanie McMahon so much, which is so funny because we’re supposed to hate each other. But I love her! Oh my God, I lover her so much! It’s so great to get that out. I love all of the girls so much.”

Rousey also noted in the interview that Triple H was the one who taught her how to lace her wrestling boots properly.

“Triple H taught me how to lace my boots,” Rousey revealed. “He was like, ‘Oh no, you want to do do this from the outside in like this.’ I was like, ‘Triple H is showing me how to lace up my boots.’ How can I not succeed in this situation when I have all the best people in this situation to help me succeed? I would be ashamed of myself if I could exceed every expectation.” 

Earlier this year, Rousey, Becky Lynch, and Charlotte were the first women to ever main event WrestleMania. Lynch would pick up the victory in the Winner Take All match, claiming both the RAW and SmackDown Women’s Titles after pinning Rousey. While Rousey thought it was a big moment for her, she put her fight against Liz Carmouche (the first-ever women’s fight in UFC history) at the top. 

“Yeah, [WrestleMania 35] felt big,” Rousey said. “I think it just has to do with the time and the perspective. Me and Liz Carmouche felt bigger to me. Even though it was years ago and not as many people watched, it was at the Honda Center which holds maybe 16k-20k compared to WrestleMania where it was in front of maybe 80k people and millions watching. I just felt me and Carmouche was the most pivotal moment had to happen that way or women’s MMA would have ended before it started. 

“With WrestleMania it just felt like all the stars were aligned and the whole universe was conspiring for us to succeed and there was not a single doubt in my mind that we would. For Carmouche, there were so many outside factors: the numbers had to do well, I had to win the match, but I had to win the match in an exciting way, and there were so many other factors I had to worry about.”

Earlier this month, Harper, 39, announced he had asked for his release from WWE after feeling like it was time to move on in his pro wrestling career. WWE has not granted a release, but instead has reportedly added on another six months to his contract due to the time he was out for wrist surgery. 

For Dustin Rhodes, he was granted his release in January and was under a 90-day non-compete. He has already been announced for AEW Double or Nothing on May 25 where he will take on his brother, Cody Rhodes.

On this morning’s edition of Wrestling Observer Radio, the topics of Luke Harper requesting a release from WWE and Dustin Rhodes receiving his came up. Meltzer noted that McMahon does not want to release anyone right now, however the reason that Rhodes was granted his while Harper was denied is because of Triple H. Triple Hreportedly talked McMahon into releasing Rhodes, however no one is talking McMahon into granting Harper his.

Harper was reportedly scheduled to feud with Sami Zayn, however those plans were nixed.

In the latest Road to Double or Nothing, Cody Rhodeshyped his upcoming match against his brother, Dustin Rhodes, at AEW Double or Nothing on May 25 in Las Vegas. During his promo, Cody comments about this being a generational match, where he wants to kill off the Attitude Era.

“This match is ‘generation vs. generation,’ I am not here to kill Dustin Rhodes,” Cody said. “I’m here to kill the Attitude Era. My whole class of peers has been compared to these gilded late 90s through the early 2000s for over a decade and it’s an utter shame. Sure, you paved the roads for us, but gosh, you set the speed markers at 35 because you’re terrified of us putting the f—ing foot down on the pedal.”

Cody then doubles down, responding to Triple H’s “piss-ant company” comment about AEW during DX’s Hall of Fame induction speech, and references The Rock / CM Punk.

“You mean to tell me some piss-ant bodybuilder making every match a ‘No DQ,’ meandering around the crowd, throwing the jib cam at his opponent compares with a Kenny – Okada match?” Cody asked. “Or some bra and panties speculator can match-up with what the women did last September 1st? Or even Dwayne—as electric as it was—rhyming and raising. Was it really better than what Punk said, sitting on that stage?”

You can check out Cody Rhodes’ full comments in the video above.