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WCW’s Bash at the Beach 2000 was one of the more controversial events in the company’s history. The topic came up when Booker T hosted Jeff Jarrett on his Heated Conversations podcast.

In a match between Hulk Hogan and Jarrett, who was the WCW World Heavyweight Champion, Vince Russo had Jarrett lay down in the center of the ring so Hogan can win the title. Hogan got on the mic and admonished Russo for the segment before pinning Jarrett and Russo later fired him, declaring Jarrett was still the champion. It was Hogan’s last appearance in WCW. Later that night, Russo announced an impromptu match between Jarrett and Booker in which Booker won his first WCW world championship.

The incident came up when Jarrett was discussing the differences between how wrestlers worked back then and how current wrestlers work. Jarrett said current superstars sometimes attempt to do too much in the ring and need to slow down.

“One of the things that come to my mind as I have shared the last couple of years is that you [Booker T] and I both lived through that myth known as Bash at the Beach, and at the end of the night, when you [Booker T] and me were put in an awkward position because of all the B.S., but what I had said was that match was one of my all-time favorites because of the set of circumstances,” Jarrett said. “Where I was going with this is that we both like old and new school, but Booker T, what you did you did very good, you didn’t have to do 15,000 moves, you did your set of moves that flat out got over and stayed over. That is what I have seen it a lot more now, from 2005-2014, there have been guys that tried 50 different moves in one match, and you tell them to take a breather and cut out 80% of it, but that 20% you do, do it really well. Guys that are developing, that are just standing out, they are doing just enough and doing it really well, and I believe that is the secret to something that is missed.”

Jarrett said he was unaware of how things were going to unfold at Bash at the Beach, but he did have an inkling that something was off. Still, he was proud that he and Booker were able to work through the difficult circumstances.

“I have gone on record. I wish I can give you a big, juicy story that can make headlines, but I knew something was up a little bit going into the weekend because I couldn’t get a clear answer on anything. Then, that day, I’m not pointing the finger at anybody, it was the system, so I didn’t know a whole lot. It was one thing to another, to another, then got shifted. Johnny Ace was there; it was a big bucket of stew that didn’t taste very well from anybody,” Jarrett said. “I did say, as I said in multiple interviews when I get asked about that; everyone wants to know about the Hulk Hogan situation and the politics behind that; sort of the hidden gem is that we closed the show, you [Booker T] were crowned champion in very difficult circumstances, but we went out and did business and I am pretty proud of that.”

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As previously noted, 2018 WWE Hall Of Fame nominee Ivory sat down for a Skype chat session with WWE Hall Of Famer Steve Austin on The Steve Austin Show. Among many other things Ivory talked about her run as Miss Ivory of Right To Censor, the transition from terming female pro wrestlers ‘women’ to ‘divas’, and her WWE departure in 2005.

On the subject of Right To Censor, Ivory indicated that she did not receive very meaningful instruction from then-WWE writer Vince Russo. According to Ivory, Stephanie McMahon pitched her the RTC role, but was tentative about it. Additionally, Ivory said RTC was a lot of fun.

“Yeah, the only instruction Vince Russo ever gave me was, ‘just be a b—h,'” Ivory recalled. “They give you this name and I have no idea where it came from. And that was about the gist of my direction. ‘Just be a b—h, Ivory!’ ‘Okay, I’ll do my best!’ But, The Right to Censor, Stephanie [McMahon] approached me with it and she was really tentative about it, like, ‘nobody’s going to want to do this… would you want to join the group?’ And I said, ‘hell yeah!’ I was waiting for something to sink my teeth into, so I was all-in to be Miss Ivory of The RTC. It was great fun too!”

In Ivory’s learned opinion, the transition to divas made it harder and harder for her to talk put over the WWE product.

“I get that it’s packaging and it’s neat to put a name on what the girls are,” Ivory said. “But it seems to me that they were making us Sports Illustrated swimsuit models instead of women who wrestle on a pro wrestling program. So it worked for the company, but I think it was a big part of what made it okay for me when I left was that it was getting harder and harder to talk really great about our product because they had gotten rid of all the wrestlers, the women workers, and replaced that segment with pieces that were really just embarrassing to watch. Nothing against the women trying out to be divas, but watching them get canned in front of everybody on TV, with the audience voting them off with their cell phones and votes, like The Voice or any of those shows, but kind of not really based on expressing their talents. It was their looks only and we made them do these stupid relays and it was just really demeaning and it didn’t have anything to do with wrestling! Make a different reality show about that, but don’t put it on our show. So to me, it got to be hard to put it over when I was doing WWE Experience or whatever, anything.”

With respect to her WWE departure, Ivory, who claimed that she did not get into landscaping no matter what her Wiki page suggests, admitted that was disgruntled because she wanted to be a pro wrestler and WWE wanted her to be a talking head.

“I was disgruntled because there was still some good action to be had in the ring and I wanted to be in my boots and not be a talking head when I had the best gig in the world! I mean, come on!” Ivory elaborated, “it was such an easy gig, but I’m not very good at accepting great offers right away. I was still kind of pissed that I wasn’t in the ring.”

Jeff Jarrett spoke to the area’s CBS affiliate — KENS-5. “Double J” discussed his upcoming induction into the WWE Hall of Fame induction, the legacy he’s built outside of WWE, how the wrestling business has changed since his departure from WWE in 1999, and more. Highlights from the interview are as follows:

When he was contacted by WWE about being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame:

“It was in early January, it was on a Sunday morning. I got a text that said, “Can you chat for a couple of minutes?” In the wrestling industry and the entertainment industry, weekends you never have off. So getting a text on a Sunday morning didn’t really shock me. Me, my wife and kids were getting ready for church and I went up to my office and had a conversation.

“I was shocked because I didn’t think that on a Sunday morning I’d be getting that call in early January. But that’s our industry, that’s the uniqueness of it. We’re obviously not true sports and we’re an aggressive, physical form of entertainment. We’re a hybrid and always have been and always will be. We do things bigger and louder and prouder and boisterous and everything that goes with it.

“It’s still very surreal to me that I was asked and I’m really looking forward to April 6.”

What he remembers about the end of the Monday Night War on March 26, 2001, with Vince McMahon opening the last-ever episode of WCW Monday Nitro with a simulcast of WWF Raw Is War to announce that he has purchased WCW:

“The last three to four months of WCW, there was all kinds of sale talk. It was going in a bunch of different directions where people were questioning the future of the company.

“I can remember vividly that Nitro was gonna be held in Panama City and there was a lot of promotion. I went down on a Wednesday or Thursday to participate in promotions and appearances.

“It was just a different time. I was under contract with the Turner organization and I knew that I had another eight or nine months on the contract and knew that whatever happened, that contract situation had to be resolved one way or another.

“One thing Vince McMahon does, and he does a lot of things great, but he knows how to create great television, very compelling television. But with all the things that are going into the production, it was a sad day for the production people. They knew that the WWF had their production people in place, whether it’s lighting or sound or graphics, whatever the department may be, they knew that that was the end of their “wrestling run” certainly for the time being.

“So that was an uncomfortable situation. It was their last night.

“Wrestlers, you name it, it was a mixed gamut. Some knew they were gonna be getting paid, some didn’t have a clue, some were excited about a new opportunity. It was a unique day in our industry, without question. It was so memorable just because of the fact that we’re sitting her talking about it.

“Who would’ve ever thought that there would be a simulcast with Shane on one network and Vince on the other? My last night with WWF at the time was in Cleveland. And how ironic that Raw was in Cleveland that night as well. So I’ve had two nights where I finished up in Cleveland with the organization.”

To read the full interview with Jarrett, click here.

 

2018 WWE Hall Of Fame nominee Ivory, also known as Lisa Moretti, recently spoke with WWE Hall Of Famer Steve Austin on The Steve Austin Show. Among many other things, Ivory discussed her experience as Tina Ferrari on the original GLOW series. Specifically, Ivory talked about the GLOW audition process, how the depiction of the audition process on NETFLIX’s GLOW series stacks up to the real thing, and how much she was paid during her run with GLOW.

According to Ivory, she went with a cheerleader friend to the GLOW audition.

“One of the cheerleaders, Nadine is her name, she was my buddy and she was an actress. A lot of the girls were choreographers, dancers, actresses, so she got an opportunity to go on an audition for this wrestling show and she called me to go with her.” Ivory asked, “‘why the hell would I want to do that?’ Of course, like everybody, I imagined huge women. ‘I don’t know anything about it. Why would I go and get my ass kicked? For what? You’re crazy!'”

Ivory recalled that she was intrigued when she arrived at the audition and an armed guard was on hand making sure the girls got to and from their cars safely.

“I went and it got even more exciting when we found the location.” Ivory continued, “so we show up and we’re going to this boxing gym and there’s this big black guy out front and he had a gun. And he was making sure all the little girls got inside the door safe. Back to your car, out of your car, so now this did not deter me. I was starting to get intrigued. Now it’s getting to be fun.”

Apparently, Ivory got really interested in the pro wrestling instruction at GLOW when the instructor, Mando Guerero, made one of the girls cry for flouting his rules of no laughing and no hanging on the ring ropes.

“The training starts and Mando Guerrero is the guy in charge. Lucky Mando! He gets to train a bunch of bimbos! So imagine that poor guy, right?” Ivory remembered, “early on into the training, some girls are hanging onto the ropes, and, of course, when he teaches us how to sell, that’s awkward and it can be a little bit funny. We get some giggles going. Not me! The bimbos. So, oh my God, he just snatched one of these girls off the rope, laid her down, applied some pressure, and made her cry. Oh! That’s when I was like, ‘I’m in. I want to learn this.’ Not because she cried, but because it meant so much to him and that this was real training.”

Also, Ivory put over NETFLIX’s GLOW as accurately depicting the real life audition process.

“That’s what’s so great about the NETFLIX show, that first few episodes of showing that collection of people traveling through this audition and sitting in the bleachers, ‘oh,’ raises hand, ‘so, are we really going to wrestle? You want us to be wrestling characters?’ And they’re like, ‘what?’ That’s how we were and even if you were there because you’re an actor.”

Ivory divulged that she made $400.00 per week at GLOW.

“I’ll give you numbers. I gave numbers to everybody.” Ivory said, “I made $400.00 a week for my tenure at GLOW. I was there for about nine months.”

Former WWE writer Vince Russo recently went to his podcast to comment on a statement made from Triple H claiming that Russo does not know how to end storylines, and cited an example being the Rebellion pay-per-view in 1999. Russo also posted on Twitter his dissatisfaction with Triple H’s comments, urging him to “get his facts straight.”

Apparently, there was an “amnesia” angle that Stephanie was a part of at the event after the British Bulldog threw a garbage can and it accidentally hit her, but was never followed through. According to Russo, Triple H added that this angle was written because he and Ed Ferrara did not know where they were ultimately going with the Stephanie-Test angle. Russo stated that he did not know anything about this angle, and the dates given when the angle was supposed to transpire did not line up with the time he was there.

Russo also stated that the culmination of the Stephanie McMahon and Test marriage angle was always set in stone.

“Ed [Ferrara] and I knew all along where we were going with the Stephanie-Test storyline,” said Russo. “It was never in question. Our plan all along was for Test to stand her up at the altar. That was the plan, and we were going to make Test a heel. And Test was gonna have an issue with Shane, and the whole family. That’s where we were going. We never wrote a story [that] we didn’t know where the thing was going.”

Russo stated that he was in Atlanta with Ferrara making a deal with WCW, and he did not write for the Rebellion UK event which aired on October 2. In fact, he would later recall that he left WWE for WCW in September, a couple weeks before Rebellion. He added that Patt Patterson, Jim Ross, and Bruce Prichard would book house shows, and there could have been a segment where an amnesia angle was created after “they did the gimmick thing with the [British] Bulldog and what it looks like is like it kinda ricocheted off of something and hit Stephanie. That was probably an accident, and [WWE] probably used that as some kind of amnesia angle once Ed and I left, [until] they figured out what they wanted to do.”

To fans, the conclusion of the angle was Triple H marrying Stephanie McMahon while she was passed out days before her wedding with Test, which enraged Stephanie. Stephanie would turn heel just a couple of weeks later during the main event of Armaggedon and betray her father Vince, which commenced the McMahon-Helmsley Regime.

Tammy Sytch, also known as former WWE star Sunny, was being held in Monmouth County Jail in New Jersey as of Saturday on $6,000 bond after being arrested earlier in the week.

 According to Dave Meltzer of F4WOnline, Sytch was arrested on Tuesday in New Jersey by the Aberdeen Township Police Department on charges of two counts of fugitive from justice and six counts of contempt of court.

TMZ Sports reported on Friday that Sytch was arrested for DUI on two separate occasions this year before Tuesday’s arrest. She had been on probation for three DUI arrests in 2015.

Sytch was arrested for DUI in New Jersey on Jan. 23 at 8:53 p.m. She was then involved in an automobile accident on Feb. 2 at 8:52 a.m. and cops say she fled the scene. Sytch was tracked down and cited for DUI, as well as leaving the scene of an accident.

She then was charged with failing to appear in court for either of the two arrests, which led to her being held in jail on Tuesday. She also has a bench warrant for an arrest in Carbon County, Pennsylvania from last August due to a probation violation.

Sytch, who turned 45 years old in December, has been arrested several times in recent years. In 2012, she was arrested five times in a four-week span, for disorderly conduct, third-degree burglary, and three counts of violating a protective order. She was arrested a sixth time in January 2013, also for violating a protective order. She served 114 days in jail and was released in May 2013.

In January 2016, Sytch pleaded guilty to driving while under suspension. On August 18, 2016, a judge sentenced her to 90 days in jail but counted her 97 days in rehab as jail credit. On September 23, 2016, 18 days into her probation, Sytch was arrested for violating her parole. The arrest was due to three DUI arrests in 2015. Sytch remained in jail on these charges through her arraignment in January 2017. She was fined $1,496.45 for the remaining charges and released on February 3, 2017.

Sytch has been semi-active on the independent wrestling scene in recent months with autograph signings and appearances at shows. Three days before her last arrest, she appeared for MCW Pro Wrestling in Hollywood, Maryland, managing fellow WWE Hall of Famer “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan.

Source: F4WOnline

Former ECW Heavyweight Champion Raven was recently a guest on Title Match Wrestling to discuss a number of topics regarding his career in WWE and ECW. Raven explained how he did not think too much of the Raven character, but it started to get over because he began to invest more time into it in order for it to look more genuine. Unfortunately, instead of art imitating life, life began to imitate art, and Raven started to head down a dark path because of embracing his character too much.

“I didn’t realize how personal it was gonna become, and then the character became so personal, so art imitated life, but then life started to imitate art when I started to become a bigger, you know, getting worse in drugs and alcohol,” said Raven. “Because, in some perverse way, I was trying to stay true to who I created, to Raven, even though Raven was based on me. So, art imitated life, but then life started to imitate art, and that’s when things went downhill.”

Raven feels that promotions creating a character for someone usually does not work well, with exceptions such as Big Boss Man and The Undertaker. It should be a part of who the person really is, because if the wrestler does not believe in his character, the fans will not. He added that wrestlers “are not casting agents.”

“It’s not like in Hollywood where they have people whose job it is to cast parts, but that is what happens. Like, they’ll come up with an idea and say, ‘we need a pirate. Let’s make this guy a pirate because he has a glass eye or something.’ And that’s how roles are cast in the wrestling business, but in the old days [of] the business, you became who you wanted to become, and if it sold, it sold, and if it didn’t sell, then you would go back to the drawing board, or you get out of the business, or went into construction or something.”

During his time in ECW, Raven became one of the most popular names in the company history, and was one of the pioneers of creating the large following that ECW had during its run. However, the original plans were much different, as Raven explained.

“The original idea was I was gonna come in for three months to get [Tommy] Dreamer over,” said Raven. “Paul E. [Heyman] didn’t realize what I was doing with the character. He thought I was going to do like a misfit grungy [character], but still a comedy character, because that’s all I’ve done before was chicken s**t heels. And that’s what he thought it was gonna be.

“But when he saw it wasn’t, that’s when the wheels started turning, and I told Paul E. before we even moved forward [and] even realized that’s what it was, I said look, if you want me to get him over quick, we need to have a back story. Because, if we have a back story, there’s already an emotional investment tied in, we can skip three months of programming, we can just jump into the meat of the programming if there’s a back story. So I came up with the back story when he gave me Stevie [Richards].”

Raven also explained that Heyman added to the story that Dreamer never beat him, and it got to the point of that being the focus of the storyline. Both Raven and Dreamer lobbied to Heyman for Dreamer not to beat him before Raven left, but Raven does understand that Heyman was reasonable in not fully trusting that Raven was going to return for them to continue their storyline.

“He couldn’t know that I’d be back in two years, and he couldn’t count on that,” said Raven. “And he had to get his mileage out of me. I had to put Tommy over to finally give catharsis to the feud, but in hindsight, sure, we never should have done it. Me and Tommy both thought we never should have done it, but from Paul E.’s point of view, we absolutely had to do it. I totally see that.”


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